I don't like decoration. Uh that its like bad painting Uh cos to me the painting has to Really mean something To me I mean I mean it's hard to say What it means Except what you feel And what what you can do with Say a a um looking investigating Uh I think that Diane Arbus once said If you vest e investigate enough, Everything becomes abstract, And I liked that so I I used it I was com - My my mother tells me this Cos uh I didn't really remember it, I mean I remember coming down the stairs Seeing this yellow piece of butter, A pound of butter Uh I went to it and stepped on it. And I stepped on it, The mat was bigger than this But I stepped on it so it was all flat. Because you know I don't like bulk Thickness three dimensions. My paintings have always been plainer And so my mother came out and said "Look what you've done you've made art"